Well.. I asked earlier how Tom Wood was doing. So now I would like to ask how mmmmmm so hard to say this... Our former(thank God) President Ricky Cornelius is doing?
Since this being the month of August with the convention in Las Vegas shortly. Soon he will get to hear his name being read up there in Vegas if he dares to show up to accept what the National will have to say about him about those charges that were denied at our local. Being found guilty and then having his cronies in the membership then vote to not uphold the findings of our own board.
What will the National have to say? Can anyone take video of that moment?
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Who cares!!! Lets get back to the interesting stuff..The 204b in maint. I hear his son works there too can we say nepotism.
I am afraid if you want to play the nepotism card, half the people in san diego district would have to transfer away.
If you were to sit all the majority ethnic group down and have them write down their parents, grandparents, children, siblings, spouses, and siblings spouses, you would find in all liklihood that ALL of them are related closely enough to fall under the Nepotism rules. ALL you have to do is take a look when a death notice goes up on the time clocks. You'll see a name, and then you will read the names of all the people that person was related to. The culture of "every family for himself" has been the reigning law of USPS-land ever since I got here 25 years ago.
I still remember sitting in orientation with a smattering of people like myself who didn't know anyone and a whole boatload of others who not only knew each other, but were on first name basis already with the proctor, the training tech, and the human resource person who was helping them fill out their applications line by line because many couldn't figure it out on their own.
I realized then that I was extremely lucky to have received a call in notice at all, since it appeared that openings were going to family members of people in high places who already had a firm foothold within the Agency walls.
Now, how do you deal with 30 years of people getting their relatives in to the fold, helping them pass their scheme assignments, helping them with 991s, putting in a good word for them when its time for a BQ job or a management position? You gonna file a grievance? An EEO? Good luck with that. You aren't going to win.
Our nepotism problem is so deep, so entrenched, so traditional, that it isn't possible to really fix it. And just wait, its going to get more complicated, now that we got this same sex "marriage" thing going on. That will add a whole n'other group into the nepotism ranks.
Look at each supervisor and see who he or she is related to. We have Bob Bryant and his wife, sister in law, brother in law, and who knows who else. We have George Albano and his wife, on the same tour for years and years. The Asperes brothers. How about Gary Hill and his wife, ex-wife or whatever she is these days. You have Evonne Franklin then Sigmund and her Hubby John sigmund, co-supervisors in 030 back in 1985. And for decades the Olaes clan of supervisors and workers ruled the roost. How many people are related to Yoli Aguda? I know a couple at least. Really, honestly look at it. then we got Evonne Frankin and her partner Noel. Even with an EEO settlement, it doesn't look like mgmt is doing anything to at least try to fake a change or two.
So, I think what this long-winded statement is trying to point out, you aren't going to clean this mess up by going after the people in maintenance.
If this really bothers you, Show some courage and go for the big enchilada. And I guarantee you, you won't win. There are too many of them, all related, throughout the postal ranks. If you make noise, they will target you, go after you, and set you up for discipline. Don't dare them to do it. In their eyes, You are nothing but an overpaid trouble maker. People don't like trouble makers. People don't like people that point out the problems within any organization, whether it is work or union. And remember, they need to get rid of people. Why not those who ask too many questions?
I myself wouldn't waste my time fighting a battle that isn't worth fighting, can't be won, and doesn't matter.
Here are the questions I ask myself to keep my compass set correctly:
Are you getting a paycheck every two weeks? Health benefits? Do you have a bid you can live with? Is your building air conditioned? Do you have a working restroom with toilet paper and soap, clean tap water, and a place to park your car?
What the hell else do you want? Worry about yourselves, and if you are bored with that, open your mind up by going back to school and learning something that is truly interesting and inspiring to you.
There are battles that can't be won, and this is one of them. I do know we have some people at work who feel very unimportant at home, maybe they are pushed around by their spouse, and they feel the need to come to work and make a lot of noise and push issues in order to feel some significance in life. For those people, this message will hit home, but it won't matter, because their need to make waves and cause discontent (something they aren't allowed to get away with at home) is too strong for them to resist. And I understand it.
So if that shoe fits, I am sorry for and wish you all luck as you bang your heads against a brick wall. But take it from someone who has been here some decades and seen other people like yourselves try this fight already. Forget it. Get on with your own life and if you need to get all involved in other peoples dramas, watch soap operas.
This here is a waste.
Ole Ricky ain't going to be showing up at the convention. He has gone under the radar and is working through Ester now.
He is really mad at WIll Tagart too because he talked to some people who told him Tagart's campaign promise if elected would be to keep his eye on Rick to try and get him trained. So he still hates the usual suspects who helped expose him to us, but he also knows that WIll dissed him during the campaign too so there is some bad blood there now.
to an old timer at aug 9 2:26 pm all we can say to you is go read title 5 of the code of federal regulations (CFR). you will see that supervisor and manager
nepotism is not legal. yes there are a lot of brothers and sisters working at the post office but how many are supervising their spouse?
To Anonymous 5:26: On Nepotism. Seen it at Midway, seen it at MLS. Seen it all over the place since I've been around. Doesn't matter to me who is related to who, because unless you are with the in-crowd, you are nothing but an employee id number, and someone to place on a daily schedule. Nothing more. I know my importance around there. and getting rid of nepotism wouldn't do a thing to boost my status, nor would it yours, I would bet.
Now, I double dog dare you to go and out the nepotism problem.
Go on now, call Turko. call the OIGs. Call whoever you want.
But you better watch your clock rings. You better be where you are supposed to be every second you are on the clock. Mind your Ps and Qs.
The squeeky wheel sometimes gets the grease, and once its greased up, that wheel gets something else.
Just speaking from experience.
I am now silent. Period. Biding my time, waiting for my date with the social security office. I am spending my time planning vacations and retirement. You can't get rid of ants by sweeping up the ones you see. And you won't EVER get to the Queen, so forget about it.
so, is brandon going to put his steward badge on again once the real stewards go to the convention. i wonder. or are going to get a real steward like karen or hugo onloan from t-1. i vote for hugo or karen.
Matthew 16:26-27
(New American Standard Bible) (NASB)
26"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?
27"For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and WILL THEN REPAY EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS."
For those simple-minded secular humanists who cannot acknowledge the Word of the Living God, maybe you can buy into the motherly wisdom of good ol' Jane Goodall:
"What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide what kind of difference you want to make."
-Jane Goodall
I am just a member of low standing, no body special, but maybe if some of the people who are going to the convention read this, do you think some of you could do like Tammy did last November and write in here with daily reports of what is happening at the convention?
I know we can get on the national website and read the corporate line, but it sure would be cool to read something from people we are paying to attend.
I know probabbly the potpourri will have some articles next time, too, but it was totally phat to be able to log on every night and read something that just happened that we might be interested in.
To Anonymous 7:23: On the Nepotism issue can you say with a fact that any of the ones you know about are a manager and their spouse is a supervisor under that manager?
because we in maintenance no of no other, where the manager has their spouse as a supervisor under said manager. and soon the managers son will be a supervisor under said manager.
This is what has the moral so low in maintenance and the root of the problem.
I still don't understand the low morale. what does it matter who is related to who?
If you want to be a supervisor too, drop in a 991 and apply. Then, if you don't get picked but a relative of someone does, go after them with an EEO and get yourself some easy dough.
For those money-grubbers out there, this seems like an easy slam dunk of a way to get some money for to satisfy the little woman at home who is likely browbeating you because we aren't getting any more OT here at the Grand Eagle.
I guess what I am saying is, unless you are being deprived of a supervisor spot because of unfair selection processes, then you have no beef. You are bored. And maybe jealous of other people's lives. And you are just looking to bitch about something. I can't blame you for being bored. this is the most unfulfilling job I've ever had. I am only here for the pay and benefits, not the task, the co-workers, or the jaunty little uniform I get to wear every day.
I have personally seen people who complained for months on end about not getting the opportunity to do stuff, like be an OJI, or Ad Hoc type person, or a 204 B, whatever.
Then management called their bluff and offered them the opportunity, and those same whiney people went running the other way.Because they didn't really want to do anyting different with their lives. They just wanted an excuse to complain.
These people totally lost their credibility with management & with those of us who heard the nonstop complaining in the break room by people who when push came to shove, didn't really want what they were so emotionally complaining about not having.
You see, I have been in this place long than most murders get sentenced in prison. I have heard it, seen it, watched it, experienced it all.
A famous author by the name of God said there is nothing new under the sun. He is right.
Nepotism only matters, realistically, when you are being deprived on something because of it. Unless that is happening to you or someone else out there, I think this is just another bored postal worker's pissy complaint.
Also, Being that I am out in the boonies, I am curious. who is the supervisor, the name of the spouse, and the name of the son? Where do they all supervise? I am assuming it is plant of midway, or maybe a big AO like Oceanside or someplace like that?
I just call it culture shock. The nepotism was just one thing that as a new hire I was introduced to.
And, like the non stop tagalog ( in San Diego) and Chinese dialects ( in Los Angeles where I came from)spoken in the cafetia and the work floor, the new and exotic foods being shared at the potlocks, some good, and some gross, and the curious tradition of having to buy everybody donuts if YOU got so much as a $50. bonus award, or if you got a bid out to the city station. The culture is firmly in place. I just grew used to what is just more of the postal culture.
Being a culturally open person, I have simply had to accept things that are objectionable to me. Because no one wants to cater to me, and no one cares what I think.
what right do I have to be offended by fast chatter I don't understand, foods that don't always smell or taste all that great, or the fact that every one in there seems to be related to each other? Hell, even if are aren't related to anyone at the start, you will be eventually, because in the Postal meat market, you will be eyed up, sized up (male female, doesn't matter) and paired off with another postal worker. And once that happens, you are in the family. And chances are, you will become related to someone in management, especially if you are part of or marrying into the ruling majority ethnic group. Its really that simple.
I figured it out real quick. When in Rome, do like the Romans do. And if you don't like what the Romans are doing, either shut up and mind your own bees wax, or leave Rome.
But, wherever you go, you will still find a culture shock of some sort that you either adapt to or you move on. And all the rules, laws and regulations can't stop the normal human tendancy to protect the members of your own gang, clan, family, herd, or whatever you want to call your preferred structural unit.
Its natural. Its nature. We are animals, just with a little more brain power. But our instincts are no different from other living things who survive within a family unit.
Thats just our culture, no matter what ethnic group we belong to.
This thinking is what keeps my nose out of crap that shouldn't bother me and doesn't. And makes me chuckle when I hear grumbles from people who ought to move on and fill their empty lives with something that really matters.
anonymous at August 14, 2008 8:22 AM
is this what you would tell our for-fathers who were working 12 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week?
"This thinking is what keeps my nose out of crap that shouldn't bother me and doesn't. And makes me chuckle when I hear grumbles from people who ought to move on and fill their empty lives with something that really matters."
because if it was not for people like me and others you would be still working 12 hours a day and 6 or 7 days a week!
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